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Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 19:39:21 »
Zanima me koliko je %  opruga malossi bijela?
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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga tvrda ?
« Odgovori #1 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 19:42:32 »
Mislis, koliko je % mekana?  ;D

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga tvrda ?
« Odgovori #2 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 19:43:32 »
Mislis, koliko je % mekana?  ;D

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #3 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 21:29:53 »
Mislim da je 17 ili 13% tvrda od serijske....
trebao bi tocno pogledat u katalogu

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #4 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 22:12:18 »
Mislim da je 17 ili 13% tvrda od serijske....
trebao bi tocno pogledat u katalogu
Krivo mu govoriš,malossi bijeli feder je najmekši od svih malossi federa i od serijskog isto

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #5 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 22:15:28 »
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The load of the stock Minarelli contrast spring is 20Kg according to Polini and 22Kg according to Top Performances. The load of the stock Piaggio contrast spring is 28Kg according to Polini and 30Kg according to Top Performances.

For upgraded setups, a spring harder than the stock one is needed. The more aggressive the upgrade, the higher the optimal spring load. For non-race 70cc upgrades, a 10%-30% load increase, depending on the level, is usually recommended. As you can see below, Top Performances offers the widest range of choices.

Below are some load ratings for the big four Italian brands (Athena Malossi, Polini, Top Performances) and the American manufacturer Zero Tolerance Racing (ZTR). Most of these figures were taken from a post on http://www.scooterluxury.it. The Athena data was obtained from the Athena catalog. The ZTR info was obtained from a post on http://www.exriders.com.

1) TOP PERFORMANCES

TP produces two kinds of contrast springs: long (for more gradual shifting) and short (for faster shifting).

For Minarelli, TP produces the following springs (0%=22Kg):

- Yellow (short), load 26 kg, + 18%
- Green (Short) load 29kg, + 30%
- Red (short), load 32 kg, + 45%.

- Green (long), load 25 kg + 15%
- Purple (long), load 27 kg, + 22 %
- Rose (long), load 29 kg, +30%.

For Piaggio, TP produces the following springs:

- Yellow (short), load 37 kg , + 23%
- Green (short), load 41 kg, + 36%
- Spring (short), load 46 kg, +53%.

- Green (long), load 35 kg, + 15%;
- Violet (Long), load 37.5 kg + 22%
- Rose (long), load 39.5 kg + 30%.

2) POLINI:

For Minarelli, Polini produces the following springs (0%=22Kg):

- Silver, load 22 kg + 10%
- Gold, load 28 kg + 40%.

For Piaggio, Polini produces the following springs (0%=30Kg):

- White Evolution, load 24 kg, - 15% (softer than stock)
- Blue Evolution, load 26 kg, - 8% (softer than stock).

3) ATHENA:

Athena does not provide silly percentages, only load figures. (You can estimate the percentages yourself, if you wish, based on the 20-22Kg assumption for Minarelli and 28-30Kg assumption for Piaggio.).

For Horizontal Minarelli, Athena produces the folowing springs:

- Blue, load 22 Kg, Ø 46
- Yellow, load 27 Kg, Ø 46
- Red, load 32 Kg, Ø 46.

The Red spring is recommended only for setups with over 10 HP for acceleration.

For Piaggio, Athena produces the following springs:

- Green, load 25 Kg, Ø 50
- Black, load 30 Kg, Ø 50
- Purple, load 35 Kg, Ø 50.

4) MALOSSI

Malossi does not provide load figures, only percentages. (You can estimate the loads yourself, based on the 20-22Kg assumption for Minarelli and 28-30Kg assumption for Piaggio.)

For Horizontal Minarelli, Malossi produces the folowing springs:

- White + 10%
- Yellow + 30%
- Red + 60%.

For Piaggio, Malossi produces the folowing springs:

- White - 10% (softer than stock)
- Green + 60%
- Purple + 80%
- Blue + 102%.

4) ZERO TOLERANCE RACING:

ZTR produces three levels of contrast springs: 1000rpm, 1500rpm, and 2000rpm. It focuses mainly on ATV's. The ZTR 1000rpm spring was developed for 50cc and 70cc cylinders.

According to Marc at Hot Quads, who was behind the development of the 1000 rpm ZTR spring, it is 15% harder than a Yellow Malossi (so, about 34-35% harder what Malossi regards as stock) and 15% softer than a 1500 rpm Koso.

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« Odgovori #6 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 22:22:48 »
jucer san stavija plavi malossi i klize remen,na tvornicku puno manje,jaca je(nova)

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« Odgovori #7 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 22:25:03 »
jucer san stavija plavi malossi i klize remen,na tvornicku puno manje,jaca je(nova)
otkad malossi ima plavi? o.O

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #8 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 22:45:47 »
Citat:
The load of the stock Minarelli contrast spring is 20Kg according to Polini and 22Kg according to Top Performances. The load of the stock Piaggio contrast spring is 28Kg according to Polini and 30Kg according to Top Performances.

For upgraded setups, a spring harder than the stock one is needed. The more aggressive the upgrade, the higher the optimal spring load. For non-race 70cc upgrades, a 10%-30% load increase, depending on the level, is usually recommended. As you can see below, Top Performances offers the widest range of choices.

Below are some load ratings for the big four Italian brands (Athena Malossi, Polini, Top Performances) and the American manufacturer Zero Tolerance Racing (ZTR). Most of these figures were taken from a post on http://www.scooterluxury.it. The Athena data was obtained from the Athena catalog. The ZTR info was obtained from a post on http://www.exriders.com.

1) TOP PERFORMANCES

TP produces two kinds of contrast springs: long (for more gradual shifting) and short (for faster shifting).

For Minarelli, TP produces the following springs (0%=22Kg):

- Yellow (short), load 26 kg, + 18%
- Green (Short) load 29kg, + 30%
- Red (short), load 32 kg, + 45%.

- Green (long), load 25 kg + 15%
- Purple (long), load 27 kg, + 22 %
- Rose (long), load 29 kg, +30%.

For Piaggio, TP produces the following springs:

- Yellow (short), load 37 kg , + 23%
- Green (short), load 41 kg, + 36%
- Spring (short), load 46 kg, +53%.

- Green (long), load 35 kg, + 15%;
- Violet (Long), load 37.5 kg + 22%
- Rose (long), load 39.5 kg + 30%.

2) POLINI:

For Minarelli, Polini produces the following springs (0%=22Kg):

- Silver, load 22 kg + 10%
- Gold, load 28 kg + 40%.

For Piaggio, Polini produces the following springs (0%=30Kg):

- White Evolution, load 24 kg, - 15% (softer than stock)
- Blue Evolution, load 26 kg, - 8% (softer than stock).

3) ATHENA:

Athena does not provide silly percentages, only load figures. (You can estimate the percentages yourself, if you wish, based on the 20-22Kg assumption for Minarelli and 28-30Kg assumption for Piaggio.).

For Horizontal Minarelli, Athena produces the folowing springs:

- Blue, load 22 Kg, Ø 46
- Yellow, load 27 Kg, Ø 46
- Red, load 32 Kg, Ø 46.

The Red spring is recommended only for setups with over 10 HP for acceleration.

For Piaggio, Athena produces the following springs:

- Green, load 25 Kg, Ø 50
- Black, load 30 Kg, Ø 50
- Purple, load 35 Kg, Ø 50.

4) MALOSSI

Malossi does not provide load figures, only percentages. (You can estimate the loads yourself, based on the 20-22Kg assumption for Minarelli and 28-30Kg assumption for Piaggio.)

For Horizontal Minarelli, Malossi produces the folowing springs:

- White + 10%
- Yellow + 30%
- Red + 60%.

For Piaggio, Malossi produces the folowing springs:

- White - 10% (softer than stock)
- Green + 60%
- Purple + 80%
- Blue + 102%.

4) ZERO TOLERANCE RACING:

ZTR produces three levels of contrast springs: 1000rpm, 1500rpm, and 2000rpm. It focuses mainly on ATV's. The ZTR 1000rpm spring was developed for 50cc and 70cc cylinders.

According to Marc at Hot Quads, who was behind the development of the 1000 rpm ZTR spring, it is 15% harder than a Yellow Malossi (so, about 34-35% harder what Malossi regards as stock) and 15% softer than a 1500 rpm Koso.

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #9 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 22:52:31 »
jucer san stavija plavi malossi i klize remen,na tvornicku puno manje,jaca je(nova)
otkad malossi ima plavi? o.O
Ima za piaggio,i taj je najtvrđi od svih malossi federa i tvrđi od serijskog

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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #10 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 23:01:32 »
jucer san stavija plavi malossi i klize remen,na tvornicku puno manje,jaca je(nova)
otkad malossi ima plavi? o.O
Ima za piaggio,i taj je najtvrđi od svih malossi federa i tvrđi od serijskog

jooj vidi stvarno sry moja greška

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« Odgovori #11 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 23:02:01 »
i meni slab,sta sad

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« Odgovori #12 : 04 Srpanj, 2013, 23:55:41 »
i meni slab,sta sad

stavi jos malossi torsion control
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Odg: Koliko je % malossi bijela opruga ?
« Odgovori #13 : 05 Srpanj, 2013, 03:16:11 »
polini torsion vec na tome

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« Odgovori #14 : 05 Srpanj, 2013, 11:05:36 »
polini torsion vec na tome
onda remen jos nije sija kako triba ili je za zamjenu
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« Odgovori #15 : 05 Srpanj, 2013, 21:52:13 »
remen ima 17,95mm,prosa oko 1000km

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« Odgovori #16 : 06 Srpanj, 2013, 21:54:28 »
remen ima 17,95mm,prosa oko 1000km

neznam onda, a po čemu si ti zaključija da ti kliže remen??
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« Odgovori #17 : 06 Srpanj, 2013, 23:48:09 »
trese,ili remen ili kumplug klize,trese od 11000 do 12500,posli ne